Interesting piece, but “the man who solved enlightenment” already says too much.
If Krishnamurti shows anything, it is not that enlightenment was solved, but that the urge to solve it is itself part of the movement that keeps reality at a distance.
The moment awakening becomes an answer, a model, or a conclusion, thought has already stepped back in and crowned itself master of what can only be seen when mastery falls silent.
So perhaps he did not solve enlightenment.
Perhaps he exposed why the mind keeps turning freedom into an object of pursuit.
The clearest map of "the smoke" I've read in a while — especially that catching yourself producing smoke is just more smoke. I keep hitting the same wall from the moral side rather than the metaphysical: the instant you notice "I'm being humble," the noticing is already the ego, repriced. "You are the smoke; as the smoke goes, the flame will come" lands harder than any instruction to try to be still — because the trying is the self, smuggled back in. Thank you for this.
I have been fond of Krishnamurti for many decades, now, and I think this is an excellent presentation of his teaching, very sympathetically done. Thank you for contributing this.
Regarding representations and relativity, I have written a little on the same subject. This seems a difficult subject for Western sensibilities that are disturbed by the idea of such relativity.
There is a similar idea that everything is made entirely of memories, where even memories are made entirely of other memories, perhaps a part of the notion of universal storehouse mind, or Dogen's Time-Being.
All rubbish. You are trying to explain the unexplainable instead it will br better for you to devote this valuable time of life here as human being in meditations. You are riding on JK’s experience as if it is your experience! It is not possible, this is foolish act.
Meditation is the door, contemplation is sure miss.
I agree with your argument regarding riding on JKs exprience. This work requires sovereignty. Sovereignty relies on authorship. One cannot borrow or copy a path. The argument on meditation is too narrow. Meditation is "a" dor. Not "the" door. Put Jung and the buddha in a room. They offer two fundamentally different doors to the same house.
Interesting piece, but “the man who solved enlightenment” already says too much.
If Krishnamurti shows anything, it is not that enlightenment was solved, but that the urge to solve it is itself part of the movement that keeps reality at a distance.
The moment awakening becomes an answer, a model, or a conclusion, thought has already stepped back in and crowned itself master of what can only be seen when mastery falls silent.
So perhaps he did not solve enlightenment.
Perhaps he exposed why the mind keeps turning freedom into an object of pursuit.
Beautifully said—and true!
Yes. The suggestion that enlightenment even entertains "solving" is a miss for me.
This is amazing content. What book by Krishnamurti would you recommend first?
Thank you, André! Krishnamurti’s Commentaries on Living Series has had a life-changing impact on me, so I highly recommend those books.
Freedom from the known is a start
The clearest map of "the smoke" I've read in a while — especially that catching yourself producing smoke is just more smoke. I keep hitting the same wall from the moral side rather than the metaphysical: the instant you notice "I'm being humble," the noticing is already the ego, repriced. "You are the smoke; as the smoke goes, the flame will come" lands harder than any instruction to try to be still — because the trying is the self, smuggled back in. Thank you for this.
Beautifully said.
The word is not the thing.
Nor borrowed thought a door.
See a thought.
Watch it move.
Until it moves no more.
Just enjoy the beautiful Rose & see what happens
I have been fond of Krishnamurti for many decades, now, and I think this is an excellent presentation of his teaching, very sympathetically done. Thank you for contributing this.
Regarding representations and relativity, I have written a little on the same subject. This seems a difficult subject for Western sensibilities that are disturbed by the idea of such relativity.
There is a similar idea that everything is made entirely of memories, where even memories are made entirely of other memories, perhaps a part of the notion of universal storehouse mind, or Dogen's Time-Being.
Very interesting!
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Pure presence combined with creation is the simple answer
All rubbish. You are trying to explain the unexplainable instead it will br better for you to devote this valuable time of life here as human being in meditations. You are riding on JK’s experience as if it is your experience! It is not possible, this is foolish act.
Meditation is the door, contemplation is sure miss.
https://youtu.be/tEO87hvh8kE?si=z5w5a2v98vMzxOAZ
Meditation is not a monopoly on insight.
Some people meditate for years and only deepen the structure of seeking.
Others see something clearly without any method at all.
So no, I do not accept the idea that truth becomes valid only after passing through a spiritual technique.
That is already another form of authority and possession.
I agree with your argument regarding riding on JKs exprience. This work requires sovereignty. Sovereignty relies on authorship. One cannot borrow or copy a path. The argument on meditation is too narrow. Meditation is "a" dor. Not "the" door. Put Jung and the buddha in a room. They offer two fundamentally different doors to the same house.